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Jackie and Bobby Angel are authors, speakers, musicians, and evangelists for the Catholic faith. We are launching this channel to bring you into our conversations with people we think will provide you with insightful perspectives on human & spiritual formation.

Jackie and Bobby Angel are authors, speakers, musicians, and evangelists for the Catholic faith. We are launching this channel to bring you into our conversations with people we think will provide you with insightful perspectives on human & spiritual formation.
Join us for the episodes ahead!
Please visit our website at: https://jackieandbobby.com/
If you feel called to support us financially in this ministry endeavor, please prayerfully consider visiting our support page: https://www.patreon.com/jackieandbobby
Bobby reconnects with Dr. Andrew Swafford at the SEEK 2026 conference to discuss his latest book ”Next Stop: the Afterlife,” a reflection on C.S. Lewis' masterpiece The Great Divorce and lessons we can learn from that work. —
Andrew Swafford is a professor of theology at Benedictine College. He is the author of A Catholic Guide to the New Testament and coauthor with his wife, Sarah Swafford, of Gift and Grit: How Heroic Virtue Can Change Your Life and Relationships. Swafford holds a doctorate in sacred theology from the University of St. Mary of the Lake and a master’s degree in Old Testament and Semitic languages from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School.
He has spoken at numerous conferences, including the National Catholic Youth Conference (NCYC), the National Eucharistic Congress, the Renew Toronto Young Adult Conference, and the Defending the Faith Conference in Steubenville, Ohio. He is the general editor and a contributor to Ascension’s Great Adventure Catholic Bible.
An avid student of Brazilian jiu-jitsu, he lives in Atchison, Kansas, with Sarah and their children.
Connect with Andy & Sarah: https://theswaffords.com/— Thank you for listening! For more info on our talks, books, and resources, please visit our website at: https://jackieandbobby.com/ If you feel called to support us financially in this ministry endeavor, please prayerfully consider visiting our support page: https://www.patreon.com/jackieandbobby

